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@zital @tasiosudupe @doublemauler @Ionliz @ibaios

@fanta ahora odian a la policia pero cuando iban a por los "catalufos" cantaban el a por ellos...

@itzikigai_ DIBUJOS TOCHOS EH

@AzkueFundazioa @zital @gamerauntsia ea audioa zuzentzen den...

@protonmail I love protonmail, and I'd love to fix these issues, I would even make a reproducible bridge for you if you ask me to. But I don't have the energy to do it by myself. It's simply not possible to package.

So, here we are. As much as I'd like to continue to work with you and support you, I don't feel I can do it anymore.

@protonmail Also, don't get me wrong. I love protonmail and its ideas but I think you are too focused on "normal" users and breaking other people's setups without giving much in exchange. I feel like a second class user in protonmail, as my distro doesn't support .deb or .rpm packages... and I need to use plain text email pretty often (which you don't really support in the web either).

@protonmail the Proton bridge has many dependencies:
https://github.com/ProtonMail/proton-bridge/blob/master/go.mod

Packaging all of them for a distribution is a huge effort. I don't think you are really aware of the level of work it requires.
Also, you have a .deb and a .rpm package, which are precompiled... forcing your users to trust those.

My distro and my work are focused on reproducible builds and bootstrappability... some serious concerns you don't take in account.

@ghostdancer @xiroux lo peor es que si luego quiero imitarlo no me sale. Me lo tienen que contagiar.

@pl for signing commits? what can you use instead? :)

@jartigag @mailbox_org I really like @protonmail but they are always getting in the way with their non-standard things and their bridge which is FULL of dependencies and it's impossible to package for some systems.
They are pushing me away from them too hard...
I won't be surprised if finally push me away from their service in the mid term... after many years of trusting them for my business and personal email...
It's a real shame.

@xiroux HAHA

@xiroux yo hablo 10 minutos con un andaluz y ya se me empieza a ir...

@piggo only if protonmail supported some sane defaults... uuugh
The ux is pretty good in protonmail. They support the sieve rules too...

@piggo hmmm australia... i don't know if I like it.

@piggo where are they located?

Also i just got my physical copy of @munificent 's amazing Crafting Compilers book.

It's a real masterpiece, from the physical book to its contents.
I already have a copy of Game Programming patterns, and I tried to delay buying this one as much as I could, reading it online... But this fantastic book had to reach my hands.
Amazing stuff. Fully recommended.

I want to apply for commit access in #Guix but this fucking protonmail account I use is just getting in the way all the time dude...

I have to learn to use GPG and Protomail's opinions are just preventing me from doing it as I'd like to.
What should I do now? use the fucking shitty bridge they have that requires too many dependencies we can't package it? Or maybe change the provider and lose all my setup...

(cc @janneke @civodul and @efraim you'll be pinged about the thing soonish...)

@stargirl DAMN!

@PaniczGodek @rml @drewdevault Clojure is kind of a middle point in there isn't it?

@tfe Inor da "somebody" edo "alguien". Ez gutxi baizik eta "pertsonaren bat al dago?".

Nadie puede => "Inork ezin du", edo simpleago => ezin da