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  1. taiju :gnu: :emacs: :guix: (taiju@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 27-May-2022 15:52:40 CEST taiju :gnu: :emacs: :guix: taiju :gnu: :emacs: :guix:

    Sometimes I have acquaintances who say, "I have no right to complain about my free use of free software," and they don't understand the preciousness and significance of free software activities, what should I do in such situations?
    It is true that freedom 0 exists in the definition of free software, but I want them to have respect for free software developers.
    I am not complaining; I am just trying to preach that the useful ones that are free to use are made by people who believe in freedom.

    In conversation Friday, 27-May-2022 15:52:40 CEST from fosstodon.org permalink
    • taiju :gnu: :emacs: :guix: (taiju@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 27-May-2022 15:52:39 CEST taiju :gnu: :emacs: :guix: taiju :gnu: :emacs: :guix:
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      • Emacsen

      @emacsen Sorry, I wrote that as an abstraction so it doesn't come across.
      There is a person who claims that Guix is completely useless without Nonguix, and that GNU is doing it wrong by not making Nonguix's existence public. He also claims that it is strange that Nonguix cannot be promoted on IRC and ML.
      This is clearly against Nonguix policy, and I feel that this is a statement that shows neither respect for Guix nor Nonguix.

      In conversation Friday, 27-May-2022 15:52:39 CEST permalink
    • Ekaitz Zárraga 👹 (ekaitz_zarraga@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 27-May-2022 15:52:39 CEST Ekaitz Zárraga 👹 Ekaitz Zárraga 👹
      in reply to
      • Emacsen

      @taiju @emacsen Well if Guix is useless without nonguix, nonguix is also useless without guix. :)

      In conversation Friday, 27-May-2022 15:52:39 CEST permalink
    • Emacsen (emacsen@emacsen.net)'s status on Friday, 27-May-2022 15:52:40 CEST Emacsen Emacsen
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      @taiju

      > I have no right to complain about my free use of free software

      I don't understand this statement. Are they saying that the software is bad and needs fixing but they feel embarrassed or too shy to do so?

      > I want them to have respect for free software developers.

      I'm confused, because this seems in contradiction of your above statement.

      Can you explain what they're doing that shows they don't have respect for developers?

      In conversation Friday, 27-May-2022 15:52:40 CEST permalink
    • w96k (w96k@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 27-May-2022 17:24:37 CEST w96k w96k
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      • Ekaitz Zárraga 👹
      • Emacsen

      @ekaitz_zarraga @taiju @emacsen To be honest I don't think that I would use Guix if it would be packed with proprietary software like NixOS does. I like that Guix is totally free from proprietary software and it pushes even further, because it also have reproducible compilers, so there is minimal unknown binaries in a system. Mainstream distros doesn't care so much about reproducibility issue.

      Nonguix in general is a good example that guix is flexible enough to be extended elsewhere.

      In conversation Friday, 27-May-2022 17:24:37 CEST permalink

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