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1. Bob Mottram ? ☕ ✅ (bob@soc.freedombone.net)'s status on Monday, 05-Nov-2018 23:16:41 CET Bob Mottram ? ☕ ✅

   • Mr. Jeff Cliff, BSc(CompSci)
   • Puffinux
   @puffinux @jeffcliff As if TBL hadn't already lost enough credibility.
   
   This isn't going to help anyone who needs help. Dissidents will still be persecuted. Companies will still conduct surveillance on their users in unethical and non-consenting ways. They will also continue to ignore data protection rules and construct search engines designed to enable government censorship and spying.
   
   Also companies like Cloudflare are a joke and they have zero credibility with anyone who knows how the internet works.
   
   After decades of trying to improve rights in the digital space we know what kinds of things work. Licenses, if properly vetted by copyright lawyers, are known to work. Encryption, if appropriately implemented and audited, works. Systems designed to be "offline first" and go under the radar of most other things are known to provide some level of protections to people who need it.
   
   Vague pledges have never worked. Companies and governments routinely break their promises and think nothing of it.
   • Aral Balkan repeated this.
   • Adrian Cochrane (alcinnz@floss.social)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Nov-2018 03:18:38 CET Adrian Cochrane

     in reply to

     • Mr. Jeff Cliff, BSc(CompSci)
     • Puffinux

     @bob @puffinux @jeffcliff Wow that contract doesn't say much more than "governments and companies will work together to protect privacy and ensure everyone can get online. Oh and we need strong public discourse."

     I can't see anyone disagreeing with that. The question is how do people interpret it?

     Aral Balkan repeated this.