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  1. Csepp 🌒 (csepp@merveilles.town)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Jun-2021 11:23:43 CEST Csepp 🌢 Csepp 🌒

    It's a bit weird that people consider having to learn English an act of colonization but when someone refuses to translate French or Spanish, that is somehow fine. Maybe they think they are sticking it to the native English speakers, but from my perspective it sounds like "learn the languages of 3+ colonizers instead of just 1".Anyways, I still think English is a perfectly fine lingua franca, but we should teach it without all the British culture. Make that part opt in.

    In conversation Wednesday, 23-Jun-2021 11:23:43 CEST from merveilles.town permalink
    • Wim πŸˆ‚οΈ (wim_v12e@cybre.space)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Jun-2021 11:23:43 CEST Wim 🈂️ Wim πŸˆ‚οΈ
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      @csepp I'd think these days it is mostly taught with American culture ^_^

      In conversation Wednesday, 23-Jun-2021 11:23:43 CEST permalink
    • Csepp 🌒 (csepp@merveilles.town)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Jun-2021 11:23:43 CEST Csepp 🌢 Csepp 🌒
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      • Wim πŸˆ‚οΈ

      @wim_v12e Hmm. Maaaybe? I graduated high school only bit more than 5 years ago and our teachers were pretty UK focused.

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    • Wim πŸˆ‚οΈ (wim_v12e@cybre.space)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Jun-2021 11:23:43 CEST Wim 🈂️ Wim πŸˆ‚οΈ
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      @csepp I was joking, because US culture is so dominant, including in the UK. I think in most of Europe, the English teachers are UK focused. Which bits of British culture did they teach you that you'd rather they didn't?

      In conversation Wednesday, 23-Jun-2021 11:23:43 CEST permalink
    • Csepp 🌒 (csepp@merveilles.town)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Jun-2021 11:23:43 CEST Csepp 🌢 Csepp 🌒
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      • Wim πŸˆ‚οΈ

      @wim_v12e It's more that they teach a very sanitized version of it. Like, they don't tell you about the British Empire, or The Troubles, or what the RP accent (that you are supposed to learn) means culturally or from a class perspective. If you hear an Irish or Scottish or whatever accent in media it's often treated as a joke and you aren't really supposed to think about the historical reasons behind that.

      In conversation Wednesday, 23-Jun-2021 11:23:43 CEST permalink
      Ekaitz ZΓ‘rraga πŸ‘Ή repeated this.
    • Csepp 🌒 (csepp@merveilles.town)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Jun-2021 11:23:43 CEST Csepp 🌢 Csepp 🌒
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      • Wim πŸˆ‚οΈ

      @wim_v12e But also it'd be Very Neat if English class was treated as the place where you learn to talk to people from all around the world, which is IMHO the real reason anyone learns it, so why not reflect that in the example texts and illustrations and maybe talk about a different culture on each class, or in each module, or whatever.

      In conversation Wednesday, 23-Jun-2021 11:23:43 CEST permalink

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