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1. Lili Saintcrow (lilithsaintcrow@raggedfeathers.com)'s status on Monday, 13-Sep-2021 22:27:22 CEST Lili Saintcrow

   • Ekaitz Zárraga 👹

   @ekaitz_zarraga YOU MEAN PEOPLE JUST PICK IT OFF TREES?

   I…had not considered that option.

   • Lili Saintcrow (lilithsaintcrow@raggedfeathers.com)'s status on Monday, 13-Sep-2021 22:16:34 CEST Lili Saintcrow

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     Anyway, if any scientists, beetle scientists, or dermatologists know, I’d love to hear exactly how the cantharidin is extracted. I can’t find the details anywhere.

   • Lili Saintcrow (lilithsaintcrow@raggedfeathers.com)'s status on Monday, 13-Sep-2021 22:16:35 CEST Lili Saintcrow

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     (You seriously cannot give me the words “copulatory gift” and expect me not to have questions. It’s just impossible.)

   • Lili Saintcrow (lilithsaintcrow@raggedfeathers.com)'s status on Monday, 13-Sep-2021 22:16:36 CEST Lili Saintcrow

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     (I AM TRYING SO HARD *NOT* TO MAKE A BEETLE PORN JOKE HERE, YOU GUYS. IT IS SO DIFFICULT.)

   • Lili Saintcrow (lilithsaintcrow@raggedfeathers.com)'s status on Monday, 13-Sep-2021 22:16:38 CEST Lili Saintcrow

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     (So like, do you have to…excite the beetle, before it produces the burning stuff? And if you do, how is that done before one, uh, gets the “copulatory gift” for use in medicine and industry?)

   • Lili Saintcrow (lilithsaintcrow@raggedfeathers.com)'s status on Monday, 13-Sep-2021 22:16:39 CEST Lili Saintcrow

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     (All this started because when I looked “cantharidin” up Wikipedia informed me that the stuff is a “copulatory gift” from the male beetle to the female, and…well, you can’t just TELL me that, you know?)

   • Lili Saintcrow (lilithsaintcrow@raggedfeathers.com)'s status on Monday, 13-Sep-2021 22:16:40 CEST Lili Saintcrow

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     Is it different for different uses? Is the cantharidin extracted by crushing for industrial uses and beetle-milking for dermatological ones?

     My Google-fu has sadly betrayed me in this one instance.

   • Lili Saintcrow (lilithsaintcrow@raggedfeathers.com)'s status on Monday, 13-Sep-2021 22:16:42 CEST Lili Saintcrow

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     I’m trying to figure out if the crush-and-extract is better than the prospect of, say, hand-milking them, or scraping off the inside of their little beetle habitats after the beetles have been…excited enough to secrete.

   • Lili Saintcrow (lilithsaintcrow@raggedfeathers.com)'s status on Monday, 13-Sep-2021 22:16:43 CEST Lili Saintcrow

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     I’m talking about cantharidin as a topical vesicant used in dermatology, naturally.

     I just need to know how it’s extracted.

   • Lili Saintcrow (lilithsaintcrow@raggedfeathers.com)'s status on Monday, 13-Sep-2021 22:16:45 CEST Lili Saintcrow

     All right, internet. I have a (somewhat burning) question.

     How exactly do they get cantharidin from the beetles? Do they grind up the dead beetles and extract it in a solution, or do they get the excretions from live ones?

   • Lili Saintcrow (lilithsaintcrow@raggedfeathers.com)'s status on Monday, 13-Sep-2021 22:20:12 CEST Lili Saintcrow

     • Ekaitz Zárraga 👹

     @ekaitz_zarraga Dried would make sense! I just keep tripping over that “secretion” thing and wondering if there’s little, uh, beetle ranches.

     Because being the person who scrapes that stuff off the inside of tiny beetle cages must be a trip.

   • Lili Saintcrow (lilithsaintcrow@raggedfeathers.com)'s status on Monday, 13-Sep-2021 22:27:37 CEST Lili Saintcrow

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     • Ekaitz Zárraga 👹

     @ekaitz_zarraga I didn’t mean to yell. The entire thing is fascinating. Thank you!