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1. dave (dthompson@toot.cat)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 21:38:37 CET dave

   • Ekaitz Zárraga 👹
   • Christine Lemmer-Webber
   • Ludovic Courtès

   @ekaitz_zarraga @cwebber @civodul I think it's because all POSIX procedures have traditionally gone into the default environment.

   • dave (dthompson@toot.cat)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 20:38:03 CET dave

     ruh roh guile 3.0.9 adds "spawn" to the default environment but guile-goblins uses "spawn" to make actors and that word was chosen because it *wasn't* in the default environment... until this week! wish I had been thinking about this before when I saw the POSIX spawn stuff happening.

   • Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 21:38:33 CET Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     • Ekaitz Zárraga 👹
     • tech? no! man, see...
     • Ludovic Courtès
     • Jonathan Frederickson

     @technomancy @jfred @dthompson @ekaitz_zarraga @civodul Yeah "from foo import *" is considered bad form in Python but it's kind of the default in Guile

   • tech? no! man, see... (technomancy@icosahedron.website)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 21:38:34 CET tech? no! man, see...

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     • Ekaitz Zárraga 👹
     • Christine Lemmer-Webber
     • Ludovic Courtès
     • Jonathan Frederickson

     @jfred @cwebber @dthompson @ekaitz_zarraga @civodul it was such a relief when Clojure deprecated non-prefixed imports; being able to tell at a glance whether a given identifier is local or not may add a tiny bit of verbosity but the extra clarity more than makes up for it

     Ekaitz Zárraga 👹 repeated this.
   • Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 21:38:36 CET Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     • Ekaitz Zárraga 👹
     • Ludovic Courtès

     @dthompson @ekaitz_zarraga @civodul In that sense it's kinda reasonable

     but it kinda sucks for us

   • Jonathan Frederickson (jfred@jawns.club)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 21:38:36 CET Jonathan Frederickson

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     • Ekaitz Zárraga 👹
     • Christine Lemmer-Webber
     • Ludovic Courtès

     @cwebber @dthompson @ekaitz_zarraga @civodul Part of me wishes Guile imports were always namespace-prefixed by default. You can do it manually but defaulting to prefixes would help avoid things like this (at the cost of a little verbosity)

   • Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 21:53:51 CET Christine Lemmer-Webber

     in reply to

     • Ekaitz Zárraga 👹
     • tech? no! man, see...
     • Ludovic Courtès
     • Jonathan Frederickson

     @dthompson @technomancy @jfred @ekaitz_zarraga @civodul Yeah I usually use #:select instead of prefixing, but sometimes prefixing is really convenient!

   • dave (dthompson@toot.cat)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 21:53:52 CET dave

     in reply to

     • Ekaitz Zárraga 👹
     • Christine Lemmer-Webber
     • tech? no! man, see...
     • Ludovic Courtès
     • Jonathan Frederickson

     @cwebber @technomancy @jfred @ekaitz_zarraga @civodul I think I prefer the "import what you need" approach over "prefix all imports".