@kel @aral @cult if we're being honest, gnome web is just as guilty as firefox in the 'working with google stuff by default' department https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Epiphany-3.27.1-Released
but i mean the GNOME foundation was founded in part by IBM, Compaq, and Sun, and Google is on its advisory board, so
I guess you do not stand up to something by being fully funded by it.