@ArneBab @AbbieNormal Yes, if you work well with Emacs there is no point in switching to the other. The problem is that I have never been able to feel comfortable with Emacs, it dominates me and not me it 😀. If there was a book like April Speight's book for Spacemacs I would probably look at that one, but that book doesn't exist.
It's also an age thing, I'm going to be 50 soon, I don't have enough energy and time.

If I listen to @AbbieNormal that "tooling is more important than the language per se" maybe I should instead look at Visual Studio Code for Python programmers by April Speight. We'll see...

XD Hacía tiempo que no veía un tweet que describiera mejor la universidad https://twitter.com/odaltson/status/1470370502690717698?s=20

:D
https://twitter.com/_steve_shockley/status/1470224656074481665?s=20

@w96k Ogre3d https://www.ogre3d.org/ , but I think it isn't easy.

honestly, it's 1030pm and if we arent gonna have power until 600am i might actually be cool with this, this is so peaceful in the dark by a big flickering candle. everyone is going to sleep but like this is so therapeutic

I guess I will continue with OCaml.

Nope. Germans will annihilate England: license problem, no graphics in Open Shen and the little I have read chapter 17 types don't convince me.

That said, unlike most people, I like Mark Tarver very much. I suppose it is also a question of similar ages.

Shen, with the book, is probably the best language to learn its inner workings, but I'm not interested in that, neither time nor talent for it.

oops, I had already looked it up in 2014. I don't remember it.
https://twitter.com/spectrumgomas/status/465533749376344064

The explanation of rewrite rules in Shen book is a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

@MutoShack Class discrimination! Playstation upper clases, PC lower class.

It works in WIndows. I'll stay there for now.

oops

Shen installed. It uses wine:

@abbienormal winning horse: OCaml
loser horse: Shen
A lisper already know in advance which option he will choose: Shen 😀

@abbienormal Yes, Scheme with types. The problem was Shen is BSD (the language), but Mark Tarver wanted Shen Professional (with other libraries) closed source. I don't know what the situation is at present. https://marktarver.com/open.html
Anyway, for the book only Shen BSD is needed.

I still think Germans will win that war :D, but I didn't know that Mark Tarver had put the Shen Language book online: https://shenlanguage.org/TBoS/tbos.html
There should be a lot of fun. Unfortunately I won't have time for either Ocaml or Shen in the next few months anyway.

@mdhughes I didn't mention the article for that reason, I wanted to point out that the " they need there always to be something in the way that prevents them getting whatever it is they pretend to want to do done" is quite in line with my own personality.

I used to own the entire series, but I had to sell it cause I couldn't move it onto the boat.
I kept two books though :>.

Si queremos hilar fino no es que nos guste ser perdedores, es que no damos para más. Pero si te metes en lisp sabiendo de antemano que no vas a dar la talla entonces es que inconscientemente te gusta perder. O sea que lleva razón.