@ekaitz_zarraga Of course, there is only a message when there is communication. If your art is never shared with an audience, there is no communication. Also, of course the message does not have to be intentional.

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One might and I'm sure some people do. I personally think there is not much merit in the discussion of what is art. The discussion of the message of an artwork is an interesting one though. Because the artwork is a vehicle of communication between the artist and the audience. And as such it will have a message, though not necessarily a clear and unambiguous one. I think the message depends very much on the cultural and societal context of the artist and the audience, and whether these contexts are shared or not.

@csepp

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The definition art is, like anything, socially constructed. So it is to be expected that various communities might have different definitions.

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@ekaitz_zarraga Then again, maybe not :-D Who is to say what is art and what isn't?

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@csepp What about art where the message has no social impact?

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That's a clear if somewhat subjective definition. Does it relate in any way to the use of a build tool?

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What would be the definition of "complex software", what would the metrics be? Number of source files, total lines of code, dependencies; or is it the nature of the code: cyclomatic complexity, data structure complexity, patterns of computation?

@ekaitz_zarraga You mean face-to-face?

@ekaitz_zarraga Well, "enjoy" is a strong word. But basically until April I had a job with a lot of responsibility and lots of meetings, so I had to learn more about things like leadership, emotional intelligence etc.
I prefer interacting with fewer people and writing more code, that's for sure.

@ekaitz_zarraga I do learn new skills, but they are more often interpersonal rather than technical.
And of course every time I write a research proposal I learn a lot about something very niche. But for example I have it on my list to learn more category theory and so far I have not managed to get around to it.

@ekaitz_zarraga Maybe I don't do enough learning 😄

@ekaitz_zarraga So far I've managed to avoid them. Being a luddite has its advantages.

@ekaitz_zarraga :-( They are increasingly hard to avoid, isn't it?

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@ekaitz_zarraga Nobody is happy all the time. I hope you'll soon find a way to deal with these thoughts.

@ekaitz_zarraga The feeling you shared in your first post is very recognisable to me, but somehow it doesn't have quite the same effect. I know that knowing a lot of things will not make me happier, but learning is fun. Being happy is kind of orthogonal to that. I feel old, and I am daily reminded of how weak I am. But in a way for me that is a good thing. Maybe paradoxically, being older and weaker has its advantages.

@ekaitz_zarraga I wonder though if it is the knowledge that makes you sad. I mean, if you had not acquired all that knowledge, do you think you would be happier? I think yours is a mind that wants to know.

@csepp I was joking, because US culture is so dominant, including in the UK. I think in most of Europe, the English teachers are UK focused. Which bits of British culture did they teach you that you'd rather they didn't?

@csepp I'd think these days it is mostly taught with American culture ^_^

@csepp @norikawa I would recommend having a look at Bluespec BSV https://github.com/BSVLang/Main

and Chisel https://github.com/BSVLang/Main

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